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In Shin Megami Tensei IV, the entities Ancient of Days and Sanat appear to be based upon the same entity, or at least two entities that refer to the same entity. Mythologically speaking Ancient of Days and Sanat Kumara seem to associate with each other, and both are associated with [Brahma], [Ahura Mazda], and [Kartikeya] (by name at least). The main difference between them, besides their alignment, appears to be that Sanat appears to be fighting against "the dispensation of the universe", which Ancient of Days goes on about, and wants to ripen the seeds of chaos (whatever that means). It almost feels like they're the same entity, only depicted through the veins of Law and Chaos for Ancient of Days and Sanat respectively.

Also, what does Sanat have to do with Sanat Kumara anyway? I get that both have to do with the power that motivates the evolution of life on earth, especially mankind, but I still don't understand. GalaxiaWild (talk) 22:33, April 19, 2014 (UTC)

Sanat's bio explicitly states that he is Sanat Kumara, and comes from Venus to aid in humanity's evolution. So yeah. I don't understand your later question. That's like asking "what does Helel have to do with Lucifer, are they the same guy?". Aside from that, yeah, it seems pretty obvious that the two were chosen to parallel and oppose each other because they are both derived from the "Ancient of Days" concept, that of a unaging godly figure involved with humanity's evolution. I don't think this is the first time the series has had different variants on the same figure from differing mythologies be on opposite sides.--Otherarrow (talk) 02:00, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
What would be the first? GalaxiaWild (talk) 09:33, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Also, Sanat is based on a figure that is said to be young forever, so why does Sanat look the way he does in Shin Megami Tensei IV? GalaxiaWild (talk) 13:34, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
Because he is from Venus. He probably looks like a handsome young stud by Venus standards. Seriously, his appearance is meant to set him as otherworldly, but in the "alien" way as opposed to Ancient of Days' "godly" way. As for your other question, I don't remember off the top of my head.--Otherarrow (talk) 15:40, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
I guess it makes some sense. GalaxiaWild (talk) 18:22, April 20, 2014 (UTC)
You know, I've just realized, some of Sanat's design actually reminds me of a tengu, such as wings and a big red face. I think it's a clue to Sanat Kumara's Japanese incarnation as the deity/bodhisattva Goho Maoson, who is worshipped at Mount Kurama.
Here is an image of a depiction of him. http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/0e/b4/60/0eb4609bb87593627053657e0f7ce1b6.jpg GalaxiaWild (talk) 22:12, April 20, 2014 (UTC)