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Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne battle. The Turn Icons are shown at the upper right corner. Two icons are consumed for a dodged attack.

Turn Press Battle (プレスターンバトルシステム, literally "Press Turn Battle System") is the turn-based battle system introduced in Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne.

AppearanceEdit

MechanicsEdit

Turn Press Battle employs the Turn Icon appear in the upper right in either red (corresponding to your enemies) or blue/green (corresponding to you and your allies). For the most part, there will be the same amount of Turn Icons as there are units on each side. Generally, every action consumes one Turn Icon. When all Turn Icons are used up, the phase switches to the other side and continues until the battle has ended. The Turn Icon issued at the beginning of each phase is always a "whole" icon, but depending on the result of the action, the whole icon may turn into a "half" (blinking) icon, effectively increasing the number of actions one side can take within that phase. However, a failed result will always consume more Turn Icons.

In Digital Devil Saga series, the combo skills require two or three icons, depending on how many participants required to perform the skill. If the remaining icons do not suffice (regardless of whole and half), the combo skill is not executable.

When the effective Turn Icons exceed the size of the team due to passing, scoring critical hit, etc., the action order will rewind back to the teammate who acted first and continue until all Turn Icons deplete. In Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne and Shin Megami Tensei IV, the action order is dictated by the agility stats of all combatants of one side. In Digital Devil Saga series, player can manually arrange the order, regardless of the agility.

Variable consumption of Turn IconEdit

Basically performing any action consumes one Turn Icon, either half or whole. But other conditions may change the consumption:

Action[note 1] Effect on Turn Icon[note 2]
  • Attack being repelled or absorbed.
  • Angered the opponent in the conversation.
  • Conversation disrupted by the opponent's ally. (SMT3 only.)
  • Failed retreat.
Consumes all remaining icons and swaps to the enemy phase instantly.
  • Attack being nullified or dodged.[note 3]
  • Failed negotiation with the target leaving midway. (SMT4 only.)
  • Consumes two half icons;
  • If both half and whole icons remain but the remaining half icon does not suffice, one half icon and one whole icon are consumed;
  • Consumes two whole icons if no half icon remains.
  • Attack which deals critical damage or exploits the target's weakness.[note 4]
  • Scouting gains "critical scout" effect. (SMT4 only, by offering or answering correctly which would cause the target to be satisfied.)
  • Changes one whole icon to half;
  • Consumes one half icon if no whole icon remains.
  • Performing any action with "normal" outcome (hit/missed/resisted).[note 5]
  • Successful negotiation with enemy.
  • Failed negotiation with the target leaving midway. (SMT3 only.)
  • Consumes one half icon;
  • Consumes one whole icon if no half icon remains.
  • Passing turn to the next ally.
  • Summoning, returning or swapping combatants. (SMT4 only. In Digital Devil Saga 2, this requires the auto skill "Deploy".)
  • Consumes one half icon;
  • Changes one whole icon to half if no half icon remains.
Using the skill "Beast Eye" or "Rage".
  • Consumes one half icon to add two half icons;
  • Consumes one whole icon to add two half icons if no half icon remains.
Using the skill "Guardian's Eye". (SMT4 only.)
  • Consumes one half icon to add three half icons;
  • Consumes one whole icon to add three half icons if no half icon remains.
Using the skills "Dragon Eye", "Psycho Rage" or item "Impel Stone".
  • Consumes one half icon to add four half icons;
  • Consumes one whole icon to add four half icons if no half icon remains.
Note
  1. There is the priority of the outcome to determine which result on Turn Icon takes place if the outcome of the attack which targets multiple targets is mixed, from high to low: repelled/absorbed > dodged/nullified > critical/weakness > normal/missed/resisted.
  2. Effects on Turn Icon which have multiple possibilities for one type of action result are listed in the order from high to low which indicates the priority. Except for attack which deals critical damage or exploits the target's weakness, half icon is always consumed first.
  3. There is no real penalty if the remaining icon is less than the actual icons consumed in case of nullified or dodged attack. This means the player can safely use multi-target attack if any one of the opponents nullifies it but the other does not when there is only one icon remains.
  4. If the target is both weak/critical and resist to the attack, the weak/critical part takes place.
  5. Attack which has its own hit-rate (e.g. ailment or insta-death skills) and is not dodged by the target is regarded as performing action with 'normal' outcome and does not consume extra icon. Also "resisting" (reducing specific elemental damage) is treated as normal outcome as well.

Combo skills in Digital Devil SagaEdit

Additional rules are applied for the inclusion of Combo skills which requires two or three party members to execute exclusively in Digital Devil Saga series.

Action Effect on Turn Icon
Duo or Trio combo attack being nullified or dodged.
  • Consumes three or four half icons respectively;
  • If both half and whole icons remain but the remaining half icons do not suffice, the half icons are consumed first and the remaining whole icons;
  • Consumes three or four whole icons respectively if no half icon remains.
Duo or Trio combo skill which deals critical damage or exploits the target's weakness.
  • Changes the two or three whole icons to half;
  • If both half and whole icons remain but the remaining whole icons do not suffice, all whole icons become half and the half icons (combo required icons subtracts the amount of whole icons turned half) are consumed;
  • Consumes two or three half icons if no whole icon remains.
Using duo or trio combo skill with "normal" outcome.
  • Consumes two or three half icon respectively;
  • If both half and whole icons remain but the remaining half icons do not suffice, the half icons are consumed first and then the remaining whole icons are consumed;
  • Consumes two or three whole icon respectively if no half icon remains.

Increasing Turn IconEdit

Some battle units may possess more than one press icon such as most bosses. In Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne, most bosses and semi-bosses have two Turn Icons initially. Demi-fiend himself will be bestowed with 1 more Turn Icon by Izanagi and Izanami after finishing the Burial Chamber challenge in the Labyrinth of Amala. In Digital Devil Saga series, some late-game bosses possess even more Turn Icons. For example, Garuda and Jatayu have 3 Turn Icons; Brahman and Satan have 5; Ananta has 7; and Orochi tops the ranking with 8. In Shin Megami Tensei IV, Masakado's Shadow (boss) possesses 6 Turn Icons, even though he is scripted to waste 3 Turn Icons in each turn for plot purpose. Digital Devil Saga 2 includes two Karma Rings, "Variable Ring" which randomizes the wearer's Turn Icon from 2 whole icons to 1 half icon in each turn and "Turn Ring" which simply adds one more icon for the wearer when he/she participates in battle and is alive.

Many active skills which creates extra Turn Icons of that turn are mostly exclusive to enemies. In random encounter, the enemies who possess such skills usually cast it when they are fought alone. Shin Megami Tensei IV marks the first time in which the player has access to a Turn-increasing skill, specifically "Guardian's Eye" learned by Masakado's Shadow, though this skill can only be obtained by the player after purchasing the related DLC.

GalleryEdit

 
Digital Devil Saga 2 battle press icon
Digital Devil Saga 2 battle. Two whole Turn Icons are changed to two half (blinking) icons instead of consumed for exploiting the target's weakness.
 
Shin Megami Tensei 4 battle press icon
Shin Megami Tensei IV battle. A whole Turn Icon is changed to a half icon.

TriviaEdit

  • In Digital Devil Saga, the maximum Turn Icon each side can possess is capped at eight. While normally unobtainable, Orochi posses the distinct honor of being the first, and only, demon to possess the obscene maximum of 8 turns.
  • Mot's AI during the boss fight in Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne is renowned for abusing the enemy-exclusive skill "Beast Eye" to increase his Turn Icon practically infinitely (the skill only consumes 1 MP). Among the Japanese fandom this phenomenon is nicknamed the "Mot's Drama" (モト劇場) for its absurdity.


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